Saturday, July 5, 2008

Why I Feel It's Not Time to Sell - Sainik

Analysts and fund managers are all asking us to be cautious and the bravest of the brave are asking us to nibble, by putting in around 10-20 percent of capital to work. Technical analysts are going berserk, saying they expect 2600. I read that if Nifty breaks 3800, we go straight to 2600.

But, hey, wait a minute, what is this I am hearing? Were we not being told that the Nifty at 6000 was cheap and one could buy with a 3-year timeframe in mind. All over we would be hearing the most pessimistic downward target of 5000 at worst, or best, depending on whether you were long or short. Today those targets have been halved.

The markets are driven on two pivots: fundamental and technical, i.e money flow. Surely, money was flowing inward at 6000 Nifty and it has reversed at 3900. However, at 12,750 Sensex, the PE for the Sensex would be around 12, with an expected EPS of 1050 for March 2009. Very rarely has the Sensex traded below 12 PE in the past. If we touch 9000, the Sensex would trading at 8 PE, which would be a lifetime first.

It is said that those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. At Sensex 12 PE, you are being asked to sell, and when the PE was more than 25, they were asking you to buy. Think and decide whether you want to believe the analysts or should you be using common sense instead. As they say, common sense is not commonly found.

2 Comments:

gadee333 said...

Absolute truth. I always read and admire Sainiks posts on TA group.

Stockchart said...

i do appreciate your COMMON SENSE VIEWS...but i am a technical analyst...please go through my article a few written a few days back...also please do visit my blog to see what i wrote on jan-12..bhoom2tika@blogspot.com...........................................................................................hi ,all..when i called a top at 20870 on 12-jan-08,i never expected such severe correction to take place..but markets never moove as per our EXPECTATIONS !!!!!..this is an universal truth.a lot of us thought that as everyone expects 12000..market will not come to that level..but i think the speedy communication systems have changed that perception..spread of the great subject is so immence that everyone comes to know the level of supports and resistance in no time..but i think as i EXPECTED in jan -08 itself that we are heading for a 2-3 years of consolidation phase..the range may have changed but till now i stick to the point that THIS FALL IS CORRECTIVE IN NATURE ONLY....the question is that which rise is being corrected ?? the one from sept -01...oct-02 or the one from may 04 ??..few technical points to be discussed..

1)the bearishness as seen in last few days is at the extreme..exactly as bullishness was at its best in jan-o8..so as per rules its a time to call a bottom very much nearby...no one knew in jan-08 that inflation will reach such dizzy heights or oil will threaten to touch 150..or our gdp will have tobe re-rated to slow down as hefty as more than 2% within short span of six months...but MARKET KNEW ALL THESE CHANGES ARE COMING IN MACRO-ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY..AND TECHNICALLY I CALLED IT A MAJOR TOP....is the reverse going to happen this time?? the answer is yes...how stronger a bottom we will see in the future.but i am sure we are very much near a BOTTOM....as i have been mentioning in all my articles THE MARKET DISCOUNTS THE FUTURE..so these hefty fall in indices is surely worth a fall of 2-3% of GDP..and remember that not a single blue-chip company listed in nse or bse has stopped working !!..its only that EXTREME GRID which was reflected in zooming and unrealistic prices has been CORRECTED..and now is the time to correct the prices which are too much below FUTURE FUNDAMENTALGROWTH because of EXTREME FEAR....

2)THE ROC AND MACD on weekly charts have shown a clear positive divergance in highly oversold zone.. which will help the bull onslaught.

3)if you see the weekly charts of sensex and nifty it is very much clearly evident that the whole fall has come in three segments UNTILL NOW..AND as the fall is nearing some major supports mentioned as under i think that the fall is CORRECTIVE BY NATURE.

4)I HAVE SEEN one important use of fibonacci ratios, that when you can see a distribution or accmulation on the charts you can set the targets of the last phase after the distrbution or accumulation phase ends..we can see a DISTRIBUTION phase was going on between march -may 08..targets of which are 12226 and 3637 in sensex and nifty respectively ..one can understan my concept by looking at attached charts.

5) here are some fibonacci ratios for indices,a) if you take the low of may-04 to the top of jan-08..12688 and 3813 are the 50% retracement levels...B) FROM APRIL-03 LOW TO THE TOP IN JAN-08..50% rretracement level is 3631 C) octo-02 low and jan -08 top..12013 is a 50% retracement level for sensex..D)IF WE TAKE SPET-01 LOW AND JAN-08 TOP..11907--3605 ARE THE 50% RETRACEMENT LEVELS...........
...so weather the markets are getting corrected off the rise from the lows of 2002---2003 or 2004...the 50 % retracement levels are between 11907---12688..my target is 12226..for nifty it comes in between 3605--3813...

6)the highs made by indices tends to give support when they get corrected..we have a SIGNIFICANT HIGH of 12671--3774 made in may- 2006..

7)similarly for SIGNIFICANT LOWS we have lows of 12316--3554 made in panics of march-07....SO MY CONCLUSION IS WE ARE VERY MUCH NEAR A SIGNIFICANT BOTTOM.

BHAVESH NAIk..9925673239.Wednesday, 02 July, 200808:21:36 AM

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